Loot Rules Reminder

We seem to have had some queries regarding our loot rules in raids, recently - despite having loot rules in our guild rules (that everyone has accepted prior to becoming a member of the guild) and that is linked to in the majority of raids set up on the forums - however, for clarification, I'd like to confirm them here:

Standard Loot Distribution

Loot is usually dealt with using the "Personal Loot" system.  This means that any loot you find is yours and personal to you. 

If you gain loot that is transferrable to another member of the raid group (either Bind on Equip (BoE) or transferrable Personal Loot) then you have the choice of either keeping it or donating it. 

If you chose to donate it, it should be passed to the Loot Master (the raid leader unless otherwise stated), at which point it will be open for Need/Greed rolls from the raid group as per the Master Loot System (see below for an explanation of Need/Greed). 

If no-one in the raid wants the item:

• BoE loot will be placed in the Guild Vault.
• Non-BoE loot will be disenchanted if possible, or sold.  The resultant materials/funds will be added to the guild vault.

Optional Master Loot System

Occasionally we may use the "Master Looter" system.  If we decide to use the Master Loot system, it will be discussed prior to the loot method changing.

Master Loot is as follows:

Any loot on "your" body is automatically yours if it is "blue" quality or below.

Any BoP (Bind on Pickup) Epic items will be dealt with via the Master Looter system, which means that everyone will get the opportunity to inspect the item, but only those who can actually use the item are able to roll for it.

The Loot Master will link any loot available to be rolled for in raid chat.  S(he) will then invite any "Need" rolls first.

To qualify to roll under a "Need" roll, the item must be for your current class and role - if you are unsure, feel free to ask. If multiple people roll "Need" on an item, highest roll wins.  For further information regarding qualifying for loot, please refer to the item "Qualifying for Loot" below.

If no-one desires an item under the "Need" roll, the Loot Master will ask for "Greed" rolls.

To qualify to roll under a "Greed" roll, you must be able to use the item for an "off-spec" (ie, a role that you have set as your second talent tree).  You should not roll under "Greed" for an item that you could use, but that you haven't specced for, unless all others who would qualify pass on the item.  So, for example, if you are a Paladin healer, with an offspec talented into Retribution (melee dps), you should not roll for tank items, as you do not have a tank spec currently.

If no-one desires an item under the "Need" or "Greed" rolls, and you wish an item to build up a set that you haven't currently specced for, please ask once it is obvious that no-one else is going to roll.

 If no-one wants an item, it will be disenchanted at the time of the drop and the resultant shard, etc, will be placed in the Guild Vault.  Enchanting mats placed in the Guild Vault may be used to either level up enchanting or help enchant a piece of your own equipment.  Please do not be greedy and take more than is necessary.

"Bind on Equip" Loot

Should an item drop that is Bind on Equip, the same rules apply as for BoP items in respect of "need" and "greed" rolling.  If someone wins on a "Need/current spec" or "Greed/off-spec" roll they MUST equip it immediately, in order to make the item "soulbound".  Once they have made the item soulbound, they do not necessarily have to keep wearing the item (ie, if it was won for an off-spec set).   If no-one wants a BoE item to equip and use, the Loot Master may choose whether or not everyone should roll (highest roll wins) or if the item should be sold and proceeds donated to the guild vault.

Qualifying for Loot

NEED rolls - in order to qualify to roll for items under "Need", you have to:

- be in the role the item is intended for DURING THE FIGHT THAT RESULTED IN THE LOOT DROP.  Therefore if you were in a tanking role during that particular fight, you can ONLY roll "Need" for tanking items.  If you were in a healing role during that particular fight, you can ONLY roll "Need" for healing items, etc.  Regardless of any other roles you can or have in the past fulfilled.

- ensure the item dropped is an upgrade to your current gear for that particular item slot.

- ensure the item dropped is intended for your role, and not more suited to another role.

GREED rolls - in order to qualify to roll for items under "Greed", you have to:

- have an off-spec set up for the role the item is intended for.  Therefore, if you were a DPS during the fight, and a healer item dropped that no-one rolled for under "Need", you can ONLY roll "Greed" if you were able to swap immediately from DPS to healer spec (although your off-spec doesn't necessarily have to be up to the same (raiding) standard as your main spec gear).

- ensure the item dropped is an upgrade to your current (off-spec) gear for that particular item slot.

- ensure the item dropped is intended for your (off-spec) role, and not more suited to another role.

This is to ensure that (a) every member of the raid, at any one time, only qualifies for "Need" loot for one role, (b) those who are called upon to switch to a different role have a higher chance to gain loot for that second role, whilst using that role.

This makes it fair to all members of the raid, and also enables those who dual spec to improve their "off-spec" faster than they normally would (as they may roll "Need" for items for that "off-spec" role, whilst in that role).

In short:

• *IF* it is an upgrade for your current spec at the time of the boss kill .. you can need on it.
• *IF* it is an upgrade for your alternative spec(s) (that you are intending to raid with, in guild) .. you can greed on it.

There is no other option under our standard loot rules for current expansion raids.

If it is not an upgrade for either your current spec, or your offspec that you intend to raid with .. then you cannot roll on it.

Anything that is not claimed for under either the need or greed options will be disenchanted and the resultant chaos crystal added to the raiders guild vault slot to allow people to use for enchanting their gear for guild raids.

If gear is not claimed under either need or greed, that you wish to acquire for transmog, please wait until after the need/greed rolls have been dealt with.  You may then speak to the loot master and ask if you can trade a chaos crystal for the relevant item.  If you have that item in your bags, and the loot master is amenable, then that can be an option - but it is not a right or a raid rules requirement.  This option is completely up to the loot master - if (s)he says it is not an option, you must abide by that.

Please do not make us have to inspect everyone and check websites before allowing loot to be distributed.  We work on the assumption, and expect, honesty from everyone - if you're trying to make a mockery of it, then it's just going to make raids less fun to run and organise ... don't do it.

We state in various locations, including during the application process, that everyone should be familiar with the guild rules - up to and including raiding and loot rules.  We therefore assume everyone knows these rules and adheres to them.  We assume everyone is honest and sticks to these rules and, if they're not sure, they ask.

Rolling for loot that they shouldn't be, then kicking up a fuss when they don't get it, is not acceptable.  Rolling for loot they shouldn't, regardless, will be found out at some point .. at which time there will be consequences.

Be nice, be honest, be a good team member.  Don't take loot that would better serve the guild raiders elsewhere.  At the end of the day, if you need or greed for loot you don't actually need as an upgrade, and win against someone who wanted it as an upgrade .. you may potentially be causing a boss wipe in a later raid that could have been prevented if the correct person had gotten that upgrade. 

The loot you're rolling for has been donated by someone who didn't need it as an upgrade, but could have potentially used it for disenchanting materials or transmog themselves .. please don't make a mockery of the donation system, which is there to improve the performance of our raiders.

If anyone needs any further clarification, please reply below or speak to me directly.